Fuck you, Pay me – a discussion of adventures in contracts, negotiation, and payment

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“Starting work without a contract is like putting a condom on after taking a home pregnancy test” -Mike Monteiro of Mule Design in his talk, Fuck you, Pay Me

While the above video is aimed generally to designers, there’s a wealth of information that should apply to any freelancer. Mike Monteiro, Design Director and co-founder of Mule Design Studio and his attorney give some real talk about the value of contracts, how to spot bad clients, and how to prevent yourself from getting in a bind. It’s long, but well worth the time.

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14 Responses to “Fuck you, Pay me – a discussion of adventures in contracts, negotiation, and payment”

  1. Bryan Hardbarger

    This sounds a lot like Sci-Fi screen writer Harlan Ellison’s recent & well founded rant.
    Most young designers and freelancers seem afraid to ask for their money. Many more don’t charge NEARLY enough and damage the hard earned value good designers have built.

    Don’t let clients bully you, you did the work, the balance is DUE. NOW. PERIOD.

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  6. D Buford

    I love this,I’m going to pass this to every client I work with in the Future…

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  8. Blinkin Lites

    Thank goodness I saw this video a few weeks ago. I just got handed a craptaculous contract by a client. When I made some changes based upon experience and what I learned from this video, they rejected them all.

    It wasn’t even a negotiation, just a “our contract stands as is, so sign it now”-deal.

    Too bad, so sad, I walked away.

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  9. Dave Goyard

    I never had a problem with clients so far. I always make a clear explanation and do legal contract that must be followed by me and my clients.
    That video shows a bad experience for those who ever have a bad client. I hope we never get this bad situation.

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